Angela McCourt 0:00
Let's get ready for some serious shift. This is a podcast shifting Inside Out hosted by your quantum shifter Angela McCourt, we are diving into ways to empower and enable a quantum shift. Inspiring topics hacks and guest speakers take us on a journey around authenticity, challenging status quo, personal power and living a purpose filled life.

Tyson Welcome to shifting inside out. I am so grateful to have you on this episode. To get started, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself?

Tyson Savoretti 0:38
Sure, thank you. I am Tyson sever ready. And I suppose I I typically introduced myself as an information security professional. Although I have I also like to say I've lived 1000 lives I come from entertainment and whatnot. So it it sort of depends on what, what people are into. But, you know, in my, in my day to day, I'm a cybersecurity guy. I work as a consultant, I have worked as an internal and external auditor and my story probably is a little different than most

Angela McCourt 1:11
awesome. And I cannot wait to share your story with everyone. So this is going to be an exciting episode. Okay, so to get started, I usually have each guest kind of talk through a quick round question so that the listeners can get to know you. The first question is, what is your morning ritual?

Tyson Savoretti 1:29
I start every single morning with a walk with a one and a half to two mile walk with without fail. If it's if it's raining, if it's freezing outside, I just do it. It is it is such a centering moment. I mean, I eat breakfast and whatnot. And you know, I'm sure I check emails more than I should. But the most important thing about the morning is that walk and I recommend it to everyone. I mean, it helped me lose weight. And it got me I think just gets you your mind in the right place for whatever, whatever's come in that day.

Angela McCourt 2:00
I love it. I love it. Very good. Yes. Start the day with a clear mind. And then how do you renew your energy?

Tyson Savoretti 2:07
Gosh, I don't want it to sound too similar. But I renew my energy by finding alone time just a place where it can be mostly silent. And by myself. I think I can clear things that way.

Angela McCourt 2:21
Yep, that may be the introverted side of you. I'm right there with you. How I renew my energy best or nature. Very good. So what is your guilty pleasure, then?

Tyson Savoretti 2:31
That's a good question. I, I watched probably less media than than most people these days. And it's just because I'm busy. But when I do have a moment, I I'll find some silly thing online to watch. old episodes of Gosh, Star Trek, you know, whatever. And I'll eat you know, I eat pizza as my guilty pleasure. So I guess I'm a I'm a pizza and Star Trek guy.

Angela McCourt 2:54
That's, that's okay. You're allowed to. I love it. Very good. And it's funny that the things that are like kind of normal, like we feel like those are guilty pleasures, but what it means is that it's bringing us joy. So that's awesome. I love it. Thank you. Okay, so I want to give just a quick little backdrop. So Tyson was an exploratory lab boot camp or x labs, pet Jehanne. I call it gosh, probably five or six years ago. Now it's been a while. And we had the pleasure and honor of just witnessing Tyson as he was working through that final pieces of his college career making decision around around career and what he wanted to do. And it was just such an amazing opportunity and experience for us to watch you. And then what I've continued to witness you through LinkedIn, through your journey and career has been amazing. But I would love for you to share, because I think it's important for folks to just hear different stories. And what does that mean? And how did you make decisions along the way? And what did you discover about yourself along the way, but go back as far as you want to go and sharing your journey with us?

Tyson Savoretti 4:13
Well, before there were time and space, there were nothing and a spark of creation. Not that far back. No, I always start back in. So I'm, I would I consider myself when I was going to college, a non traditional student because I was a little bit older. Not super old, and I certainly don't consider myself old now. But I was I was either early 30s or becoming 30 soon and so I was going to college. Finally after many years of you know, the fact of the matter is I would allow people to assume that I had completed college and I was just a bartender and I you know, I'm not disparaging bartenders, but I was a bartender and I was just sort of getting by I, and it just wasn't going that well. So I finally went to school for real. And you know, I went to the community college here that I went to University of South Florida. I didn't know what to do. And I felt really stressed about the fact that I was a little bit older. And I had no way to really justify the way I've spent the previous decade of my life while I was super interesting. I was I was an actor, I was a performer song and dance man in New York City, I was writing and producing shows, I didn't really meet any grand success. I mean, I did have one show, go to the New York musical theater festival, I cast myself in it. So it was good, but I was never going to make any money. I always talk I always I always talk automatic, because it was a great experience. And I'm, I wonder if I hadn't gotten through that if I'd be having some regrets now that I didn't do something crazy and creative. And so I fulfilled that creative. Pardon me, I was very fulfilled. It was a great experience. But I knew I wanted to own a house someday, and I wanted to retire someday. So I that wasn't gonna get me there. Maybe I wasn't that good. Maybe the opportunities weren't, that doesn't matter. So school. And so I was looking for a way, how do you justify being a little older. And maybe this is all in my head, but I just knew there needed to be a way for me to stand out. And somehow I came across, maybe it was, maybe it was the university, I came across X labs. And, I mean, this is not even a marketing ploy for it really did work. For me. what it showed was that no matter what your background was, or who you were, or what stage of your life you were in, there were opportunities within technology that you had not considered because you just don't know, people don't know, the opportunities out there. And one of the most wonderful facts that I've repeated many times, and some people would argue with me, is Angies fact about how how men and women traditionally would apply for different roles. And whether you were more qualified, or you consider yourself more qualified, or less qualified, depending on your gender status, you would have, you may or may not apply based upon that. And that was really, that was one of those moments was like, hey, you know, I totally believe her. I don't even need to see the statistics. I just that makes total sense to me. And I say, Well, how can I take that and expand it. So I started looking into everything. And I looked into cybersecurity, which I knew almost nothing about, I looked into it audit, which I didn't even know was a thing. And I worked for free for a little while, as an intern, just trying to get some experience to justify, I spent a little more money than I needed, or that I had rather on a certification exam, just a show, just to prove that I knew something. And this created the small snowball effect, and has led to some great things. And it was, that was really a moment that pivot moment was in X labs, I was around a bunch of people my age, there were younger people. People were older than me. And I'm making a big deal about age. But that was just my piece of it. I think a lot of people have something about themselves that they're like, Oh, this is sort of this innate thing. Maybe it's age, maybe it's, you know, whatever. You have to overcome this blocker because it's not real. It's not a real blocker. And I was lucky enough. I mean, I was fortunate and prepared at the same time. So when opportunity came, I really just allowed it to happen. And I never looked back. And I just tried to keep the momentum going. Now I like to say I'm like an ice cutting ship, I'm a little worried. If I ever slow down my momentum, I won't be able to go again. So I'm not I'm just right now I just keep cooking. And since then, excuse me since then I have I finished college, I went back and got a master's degree in cybersecurity, I got a nonsense amount of certifications. At this point. Now, there's no reason for me to get any more, which is nice feeling. And now I'm in law school. So I really want to, you know, improve myself as a professional. So I'm going to use law to become a better information security professional, and you know, the sky's the limit. And I'm telling you, I can trace it back to that that guy, you know, two month, whatever it was program, and I'm sure people got different things out of it. But I probably got the most out of it. For anybody I've met, maybe except for Angie.

Angela McCourt 9:18
Yeah. I love that. Thank you so much for sharing. And yes, it's, you know, I think a lot of times, it doesn't matter even what stage on your journey you are if you're exploring more about yourself, or if you're exploring something new or you're trying to better understand what opportunities there are so that you can then make decisions like that is such an important pivotal point that if you have those barriers or those blockers, it can hold you back. And so I love the fact that you were on a seeking mode trying to uncover and then also whatever it meant for you to justification or saying, Okay, wait a minute, you know, because one of our, one of our oldest ex live students turned 65, during the boot camp. So in our youngest was like 17. So, you know, we've had the broad, we had the broad range there. But I think one of the most important things that I realized on that, with that entire group of almost 200 students over the eight years was that everybody's on their journey at different times. And that journeys can shift and change. And so I love the fact that you went from this creative journey, and exploring that side of yourself, which, by the way, creativity in anything, right is it especially in the technology world is so helpful. So having that meant you weren't blocked and creativity. So that and then being able to experience meant you got confidence out of that, you got this probably more expanded view of how to approach problems of how to approach opportunities as well, right. And then you went into the security, the IT audit, really getting into the nitty gritty. And now with the law piece of it, I love it, because security is huge right now. And it's going to continue to be, I think, one of the big key focus areas in the innovative innovation space. So how can you make sure you have expertise around that? Because just like privacy, just like some of these other areas in the cloud, there's still so many unknowns, there's still so many on managed and unsupervised, you know, from a governmental perspective, type of thing that, you know, who knows where things will go in the next 10 years? And so you're kind of tying this, like, you're building this career, you're creating this career path, that it's I haven't heard it exist. I mean, it may exist, but it's not necessarily well known. Right? So I love the fact you use creativity use that technical experience and expertise, and now you're building your own career, basically.

Tyson Savoretti 12:05
Yes, and I'm grateful for whatever sort of internal fire that happened or was always there, or was uncovered. Because to shift a little bit, when so now, I'm like, you know, a man has many ages in their life, as they say, right. And so I, you approach an age where you start to see people, younger or less experienced than you who, who you, you look at and you notice opportunity there, or you see potential I should say. And then now and when when I see potential in others, I'm so eager to give them just a small piece of advice. Maybe I can be that little influential moment, and I've had some success yesterday. Ay, ay, Ng, I use your exact phrasing. I was basically just Angie for a while with this young woman, her name is Gabby. And she was she was managing at a restaurant or whatever. And she took a big risk. And she says, I'm going to, I'm thinking, I just want to change everything. And I was like, That's so great. You can you totally you totally can. And I so you got it. I believe in you. I think you've got the right energy and you you want to which is really important. And you see it, which is the first step just been able to visualize it. And so now she went to some, you know, some some code boot camp or whatever. And I was like, oh, gosh, I don't I don't know if that's what you're into. absolutely go for it. And she she yesterday, got a job offer. And she thanked me. She's like, Thanks for your help. I Transitively Thank you, Andrew. So maybe you felt something yesterday, I was just using, I was like, you can totally do it, wherever you are now is it takes five years to change your entire life. And you can totally do it. And so I see those opportunities now. And maybe that's maybe that's wisdom showing its head Finally, after all these years? Because yeah, I came from the entertainment side, you are completely correct that those skills stack with the technology skills, the information stuff, legal, absolutely. Just being able to approach any problem fearlessly, because you don't. You don't consider any weird social situation you've have experience with improvisation and just dealing with people. All those years behind a bar serving drinks is the same thing, the same exact thing you meet I, I'm famous for saying you meet every single type of person who exists on planet Earth. If you spend six months behind a bar, just just serving drinks. It doesn't have to be an alcohol BB or whatever, in the service industry. And it's and that is such a wonderful opportunity. I've heard people say that, you know, they say should require people to work in the service industry for for 12 months. And I think they're saying that so you're nicer to your servers but for for themselves they should because that allows them Just as breadth of experience, it's a cheat code plus you're making easy cash. So why not use the easy method that gives you the most outcome? Why not?

Angela McCourt 15:09
Yeah. So it's interesting that you you say that because I've, I've said many, many, many, many, many, many times that some of my best hires had either customer service, server or bartending experience. And in the tech industry, we move so fast, you've got to make decisions quick, you've got to be able to handle customer set issues, you have to have a sense of urgency, those are some real key core like survival things, right? And if you can do the job and the service industry, then you have a way better chance of being able to be really effective in the tech industry. Oh, yeah,

Tyson Savoretti 15:47
there is. A boot Can you can, you can tell people who haven't had experienced service industry, when you're when I'm on meetings with people and they've, I can tell, you know, they've been in the industry so long, they used to twist wires to connect, you know, networks together. And I can tell by talking to some of these people, I'm like you had, have you ever spoken to anyone outside of a cubicle? I mean, there's, and I was like, gosh, what, what, what kind of professional would you be if you were just a little more? I don't know. I don't wanna say social, but just sort of aware of people and how they interact. I guess maybe that is social something. But yeah, the word escapes me. But I see when they don't have it. I see when they do have it. And maybe that's that. Maybe that is that potential that I'm seeing people who have a little experience dealing with others, I think, have a real head start whether they know it or not.

Angela McCourt 16:38
Yeah, exactly. And I even found, like, I've had to uncover some of those experiences during interviews, because people don't put them on the resume, or they don't talk about them or use them as their examples. And when I remember interviewing someone who she's like, superstar in the industry right now, but this was many, many years ago. And she was going for more of a internal kind of sales role. And I said, Okay, well, you're coming from an ops area, like, Why do you think you have the sales skills? Where do you get that from? Oh, well, for six years, I was a server and bartender and I deal with people and I know how to influence people and all this like a why is it not on your resume? I didn't think it was important. And I went, Yeah, that changes the conversation. Let's talk about that now. And let's, let's relate that to the experience that you can bring into this role. So yeah, very, very interesting. People actually want to hide that. Like it's not important, or they're ashamed of it even. Or just,

Tyson Savoretti 17:42
I'm guilty of that. Yeah, exactly. That was before your tell the story. The speech, you know, later in the program. I think it was one of the maybe the one of the final days, I remember his little sold, little town hall type style thing. And it was it was tell your story. I was like, gosh, she's totally right. I have almost nothing to say about my experience in this industry I want to get into, so why not talk about the experience I do have that I'm comfortable talking about. So which shows two things, it shows whatever soft skills I may have developed, and also it shows just who I am. And if you're hiring someone, you want to hire the person, not just the facts on their resume. Exactly. And so yeah, so I was I was Mr. Cover Letter, then I was just like, I'll send a resume. Who cares if they look at that they will read the cover letter. If I mention my musical performance, or the fact that I I juggled everyone always loves to talk about the juggling thing. Everyone always comes up more than you think it's like, oh, you can juggle. And so So yes, I can juggle, I tried to now weave it in naturally, as if it's no big thing. But I used to lead with it. Because I was like, gosh, this is the only thing that sets me apart from all these all these guys and gals who have been doing this for so long. So you got to have something and I you know, a lot of those models folks can't juggle.

Angela McCourt 18:56
Yeah, well, and you're so right, like, people who grew up playing musical instruments, that actually says a lot about how you're able to interpret how you're able to code and develop how you're able to problem solve. Those are those are really great skills that actually come out and even analytical skills from being able to play music. When you think about, you know, I'm a psychology major, how do I go into the tech world? Well, you went into psychology because you're probably analytical, you're analytical in the sense of people behaviors, and things like that. But yet, that's all transferable to data to tell transferable to business. And so I think where we get stuck a lot is we're on these vertical pads that somebody says, Oh, well, this is where you have to go. And this is where you have to stay. Or I've had so many students that I've worked with their resumes on and they're like, yep, even though I was a professional or competitive tennis player, I am not I was told not to Put that on my resume yet you're going for a sales role. No, put the competitive tennis player on there if you don't have a ton of experience, because obviously sales people having a competitive side to them is super important. And that can also even bring up opportunities for conversation. Right? So I think we when we think about our story and telling our story right now, especially for all the folks that are dealing with, you know, losing their jobs, trying to figure out how to differentiate themselves. Telling your story is so important. Do not just use chat GBT, even though I love it, to come up with who you are, because if you're gonna look the same as everybody else, because they're all using it to, but for cover letter, for better my stories, yeah. You know, it's like, it's like, there's such a big opportunity, I think, for people to really dive deep, understand all of the pieces of who they are, and bringing that into the picture. Because, you know, saying, I'm a people person or saying, you know, I'm very passionate about what I do, that's not enough to really stand out. And so, yeah, the storytelling piece in coming up with your story is so critical.

Tyson Savoretti 21:09
So true. Yeah. And it, it's, it's the only thing that really makes you different is your history. Everybody wants to have more money, more freedom, and you know, all the other things that money and freedom can buy, right? more time, more things, whatever everybody wants stuff, or they want more time or that you know, whatever. But what you what you don't have in common is is your past. And so you find what is a little unique and doesn't have to be individually unique. But like you said, if you if you were a competitive anything, if you're a competitive video gamer, you know that it takes time and skills, and you have to think quickly and analyze, obviously, sports, and it has a mind body connection, which is incredibly important. You like to you like to play puzzle trivia games, are you one of those Rubik's Cube guys who does that really fast, like put that on a resume, it's interesting, we'll have something to talk about. So that weird lull in conversation, someone's going to like talking about this Rubik's Cube thing, just as a as a random example. And the other thing is taking whatever skills you have, you can stack them. And what you should be doing, you shouldn't learn just one simple vertical, you should learn, and you shouldn't learn everything, either. You should just stack skills that make sense. And now if you know, because because it's just two of us, I'll talk about myself. You know, I had the entertainment background, and then I went into security kind of randomly, but it has been a success. And then the consulting part, and I think makes that a little bit unique. And then law comes on top of that. And so now you're you're building a different kind of professional, that maybe is a little more unique and sets you apart. You want to avoid getting automated out of your out of your life, you know, so you want to skill stack. I know a computer cannot yet do all the things that I can. And maybe someday they will, but I'll still have a headstart. And also I don't you know, I don't want to face I wouldn't want to face ageism if I can beat it in the future. Right. So skill stacking, very important. So it's it's a mitigation tactic, and it's also a an affirmative tactic on how to approach the future. So I mean, it's you have to think about the downsides, too. You can't just you know, rah, rah, it's good to, you know, build yourself and be unique. You also think about some of the the potential downsides that could happen in the world, and how do you insulate from those things? With your skills?

Angela McCourt 23:46
Yeah, yeah, that's so amazing. I love the fact that you're thinking ahead, like you're beating the system, that literally system, you know, with with thinking ahead and creatively looking at opportunities. The other thing is that I love it's not standard, like status quo from a, this is the position, or this is the title that I wanted, this is the impact and this is what I enjoy. And this is how I can bring value into the world in a in a unique way. And that that makes that package of you unique. And bringing all of that wisdom and bringing all of the skills and experiences into you know, whatever, whatever journey you're creating, which is, I'm sure going to continue to evolve even because I think when you open up doors like you did, and you have and you open that kind of what is possible scenario. That's when things come together. Synchronicity wise, you talked about momentum earlier. I love that because I think that that's so important. And I think when you're in that mode of very focused, very open And that's when those synchronicities happen, and the momentum continues to build and build and build and build. And when you're open to Okay, what's next? Which which corner? Should I turn? You know, how should I? How should I continue on this journey? That's where the guidance comes, right? That's where it's like, you're able to just kind of continue to flow and go with it and take risks in an easier way.

Tyson Savoretti 25:24
That's right, yeah, you are taking risks, but they are, the risks have less potential impact to speak from an information security point of view, because you now have the ability to, you have momentum in one direction, and I brought up the ice cutting ship, you can't, you can't redirect that ship in any easy way, it's going to continue to go forward as long as it can. And so you want to sort of build yourself and build momentum in that way. Be that be that force that doesn't want to be reactive on exterior forces, you don't want some little thing to disrupt you, which it can if you're if you're sort of listless and the engine is not turning in the steamships not going up the river, you can get off track, and it takes a little while to get back on track. And there's that that is can be stressful. So avoid that stress altogether, by trying to trying to keep momentum, keep perspective, of course, and you brought creative creativity up again, you assigned a book, and I forgot the name, creative, confident, creative confidence, I was gonna guess that, that was that was great. I don't remember much about it. But I remember the feeling I had when I read it. And I remember the point was, the point that I got from it was that every scenario, everything that happens is a potential for you to inject some creativity into it. And, and that's so great, because even in a dry it job, you have an opportunity, whether it's through how you communicate through email, whether how you introduce yourself or interact with your peers, or your clients or whatever, that's an opportunity for you to showcase who you are be a little creative, you know, work within the bounds and the structures of the organization, whatever, but you have room to wiggle you really do. And that is something that the AI tools will never be able to recreate the the authenticity of a human, they can fake stuff really well. And the downside is a lot of people who want to take the shortcuts will take the shortcuts, but that downside for a lot of people will be a huge upside to people who are willing to take a little risk and skill stack. Because it'll be so obvious that those people are not machines. It's weird. I mean, you know, five years ago, we talked about this stuff like it was a million years in the future. But now everyone knows it's right behind tomorrow's door. So you have to talk about it as if it's already happening. Yeah, and that's it. So yeah, don't become the machine that you use, right?

Angela McCourt 27:58
Yes. I love that don't become the machine that you use. That might be the title of this episode. Are you good with us?

Unknown Speaker 28:06
I love it. I kind of happened naturally.

Angela McCourt 28:08
Yes, exactly. Yes. Okay, so I have a couple of questions. When you were making these, what I would call, like deep cuts through the ice, you're in the glacier cutting stage, right? You're going from I didn't know anything about cybersecurity, deciding to go into cybersecurity, I decided to go get all these certifications. What kind of mindset did you have around that? What kind of confidence did you start out with and have to build through that journey,

Tyson Savoretti 28:40
there was a period of time where it was blind optimism, I suppose, where I just said I'm I'm committing to this decision, and I'm going to make it work. And that was that's probably that was probably the biggest leap. Because it was a little bit of an investment. But there didn't have to be I just did it in a way that cost a little money. But if it would have been no different if I used tools I didn't know existed at the time, but things to learn and, you know, indulge in all this incredible learning that other people have already put together for you. So there was a it was a little bit of a blind step into the darkness. But I think that's every journey has to start with a bit of that. It would be nice if it didn't. But are we really ever successful if every door is opened for us, are we ever really satisfied and I'm one of my other things I like to say is people seem so people seem stressed and and I get stressed of course but I think it's because people are trying to be happy all the time and you should not go you should not be so eager to be happy happiness will come what you want is satisfaction and satisfaction is is attainable and it lasts a lot longer than happiness. Happiness is a moment and your board satisfaction is like you can look around you can feel like gratitude in general And it takes a little bit of a blind step every once in a while, hopefully you have people who can be on your team. I was someone told me once, you know, try to try to build the team of people who will root for you. And luckily, I was going to school at the time at St. Petersburg College, I'm getting my associates degree. And a lot of that I was sort of already paying for services there. So I went to their little career place. And I just started talking to the, the guys and gals in there. And I kind of got him on my team, I was just really enthusiastic as like, I'm Tuesday, ASIC, I don't know what to do exactly. But I know that I can do a lot of things. And they just loved hearing that. And so I was now I had a person or two on my team. And then I felt like I could do anything. Even if they didn't know me that well, it just felt good. And then you will attract other people, when you are sort of living, you're living your truth or whatever, you will attract the people who, who will help you along that journey. I don't know how I think, I don't know if it's magic or what but it does seem to be true. And I'm, I kind of I've I've recognized that it happens so often. Now I just rely on it. And that's great. You can you can rely on that stuff. It sounds a little, you know, little like those, you know, those self help books I used to read years and years ago, which I still read. It's that you know, live your live your thing live your bliss, they used to call I don't know what they call it now. But yeah, you find people, you attract people. And you got to just trust the trust the magic, I don't know, within yourself, but then others.

Angela McCourt 31:33
Yeah, that's what that's what feeds the momentum. It's amazing. Yeah,

Tyson Savoretti 31:38
that's right. And once you get a little, an easy win, then you are hungry for another easy win. So you know, take take the SMART goals, take a small get, you know, write a list and cross it off, start small, get a little momentum, you will want to keep it up. I hope you will want to keep it up.

Angela McCourt 31:55
I love that you just called out small goals, like breaking down your goals. So that there you can have more celebrations along the way. Because I think that helps so helps to see and feel progress, which is one of our desires as humans is to feel that progress happening in our lives happening in our career. That that is important. But it's hard sometimes if we set really super large goals, and we just are trying to achieve that. And it's like, okay, well, that's years out. But then we don't feel the progress. And we're not celebrating the wins along the way. And so breaking that down into smaller, much more reasonable, achievable, consistent goals, is it helps us to create that momentum as well.

Tyson Savoretti 32:38
People that are eager for this type of knowledge have heard this stuff over and over and over again. And it's because it's true. You know, I was like sometimes I would think Why do all these self help books? Why do they all sound the exact same? Everyone has a different approach, but they haven't got the same content? Well, hello, this should be evidence for you that they're, they're talking about something that will probably work for you. So follow the steps try it out. I don't know. Since they're all similar, you can probably find a book or two that's less expensive, right? And just start there. And I you got to start, you get into the small goals. You can eat a Buick if you put a spoonful on your Cheerios every morning. It's a some some silly metaphor I've heard

Angela McCourt 33:24
we do. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at famous one in our house? Yellow. But yeah. Kids are getting overwhelmed. It's like how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. And it calms us down. It's like a really good little mantra we use so. Okay, I have a big one for you. But I want you to take your time with this. So I could totally see you doing a TED talk. You have the energy of the personality you would like deliver the message I think in such a way that would be so influential and inspirational. What do you what would you do your topic on? Take your time. I can edit this, by the way to just take your time.

Tyson Savoretti 34:17
The TED Talk question? Is this one I always sort of avoided thinking about because then I was concerned Hey, maybe if I actually decide to do this, then I'll have to carve out time in my busy schedule and practice the TED Talk. And does anybody care? You know, and I don't even know. But yeah, a TED talk. You have to talk about things that you know. And not long ago, I felt like I knew nothing. You know, I was like geez, I'm just sort of living and breathing and paying taxes. I don't feel like I have a a direction of vector you know. And so I think that vector It feels or is different for every single person. But I think it feels the same. I think when we are going in a direction and have some momentum, which I think is what a vector is, it's been a while since science class, or algebra, I don't even know. Obviously, my TED Talk would not be on mathematics. I think that vector feels the same for people. And that must be the thing that people connect with, with self help books and podcasts and shows and, and things that make you feel good to setting small goals, all the stuff that we've all heard in different ways. There's some deeper truth there. There's some deeper magic there. So my TED Talk would describe my bizarro history, you know, I've lived 1000 lives. And I, I am already thinking about when Law School has been crushed, and is, you know, in the ruins behind me in my wake. What's next? Am I going to learn how to fly a plane? Am I going to finally give back to the world I've taken so much from, I don't know, what comes next. Because that's, that is the next step to try to really take. Once you've found momentum, and once you've found a modicum of success, how do you both encourage others to have those same feelings? And how do you literally give back because that, that positive gratitude comes back to you anyway. And so why not stack your skill stack your success with the the giving and the serving and the helping? So you can do this in information security, because technological people can help others with technology, you can do this in law. You know, we the world has enough lawyers, but maybe doesn't have enough legally trained minds. Because you know, these people can, they can help, they can help and they can change the world, you know, hopefully for the better. It's my TED Talk. And we call it a taste talk. Maybe I don't need to be on the big stage. Maybe I can do a smaller version of it. And I would weave very beautifully masterfully this whole idea of a vector once I learn what that is, again, I will use that that's gonna be my that'll be the driving factor. I love

Angela McCourt 37:21
it. Okay. You have your topic. That's that's the beginning of it, right? Yep.

Tyson Savoretti 37:26
No, no, no, I have to do it. No, it's out there. I

Angela McCourt 37:29
had to leave it in. Yeah. 1314 minutes. You got this.

Unknown Speaker 37:34
doable? It's doable. Yeah.

Angela McCourt 37:36
That's awesome. Thank you so much, Tyson. This has been amazing. A quick question. Do you have any call outs that you would like to make whether it's a book, website, class, certification, nonprofit, anything that that you are really fond of that you would like to share with listeners? Oh, hi. I have nothing

Tyson Savoretti 37:57
that I'm trying to sell. The only charity I give to his meow now, which is a spays. and neuters cats in Pinellas County. And it's just something I just love city kitties. And but but really, I'm I'm here because I wanted to give back to you in some small way. You were influential in my journey. And so this is this is that. So I'm calling out reflexively. I'm calling out this podcast itself. So thanks.

Angela McCourt 38:25
Ah, thank you. That's awesome. Well, I'm very happy to have you on and I'm so glad to hear other parts of your journey that I didn't get to hear during X Lab. So that's really awesome. I love it. And thank you for sharing your vector Tice talk because I think that is definitely going to come to fruition in the future. So thank you Tyson for being on the show. It was definitely very insightful conversation. I think we already figured out our title. So excited about that. And just appreciate you taking your time out of your very busy schedule. So crazy. If you liked this episode, you can LinkedIn me at Angie belts McCourt, and let me know and if you really want to say thank you please leave a review on Apple podcasts. Thanks so much Tyson. Thank you. Thank you